Thursday, May 12, 2011
#17 - "God/Country or Family?"
Lady Macduff is upset with her husband over his decision to leave Scotland to seek help from England in overthrowing Macbeth. Does she have a case? Is Macduff justified in leaving his family in order to pursue this "bigger" cause? What about the American soldier who is married, perhaps with children, who goes off to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan? Should (s)he go? Why do you think this?
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I think it depends for the american soldier, if he discusses this with his family and they all agree to it then it would probably be fine. In macduff's situation he should of atleast let his family know what he was doing and why he was doing it so that his wife understood and wouldnt make false accusations
Of course Lady Macduff would be upset with her husband’s decision to leave Scotland to seek help in overthrowing Macbeth. He did leave her and their family unprotected from harm’s way, but he was justified in leaving his family in order to do what was best for the country. Macduff needed to go, because it would benefit not only his family, but the country as well. Macduff couldn’t have had any idea what Macbeth was planning so it’s not his fault he wasn’t there when the murderers came. It’s similar to the American soldier leaving his family behind to fight in a war. They need to go, because they’re not only protecting their entire country, but also protecting their family from war and terrorism. As a solider your duty is to protect your country and in doing so you’re protecting your family too.
Lady Macduff has all the reasons to be upset. Her husband has left them and she now has no one and is on her own. I don't think Macduff should have left his family in danger. For an american soldier, they go to fight for something they want to do. Leaving themselves in risk, instead of their family.
Danielle period7
Lady Macduff does seem to have a case in regards to this situation. It seems almost immoral for Macduff to leave his family behind, with no protection whatsoever from potential enemies, in order to go and pursue this “bigger” cause. Macduff may feel he is justified in his absence from his family. He probably felt it was a necessity to go to Scotland and put Malcolm back in power on the throne. In regards to the American soldier, who is married with children, it is nearly required of him/her to go and serve their country in an international battle. However, if he/she feels it is unnecessary to have to sacrifice time with his/her family to go fight, perhaps they have the option of going to the higher authority members of whatever branch of the military they are assigned to and make an argument of why they feel it is a futile mission to have to carry out.
Period 8 English
I think today or in Shakespeare's Macbeth, family is more important than your country. I think a man shouldn't leave his family to fight in the army. It leaves his wife to raise children by herself and pay the bills by herself. And leave her worried 24/7 about wether he will come home or not. No one should be left to feel that way. Family is always there for you and will always love you, but your country might not. I feel like men and women in the army are just used by the government and our country. I think the country doesn't truly cherish their lives. But their families do and its not fair to them.
Originally i thought Lady Macduff had a right to critisize her husband for leaving their family, but after comparing Macduff to an american soldier my opinion has slightly changed. I do think Lady Macduff has the right to be upset, but she should also appreciate what he's doing for his country and for God.
It depends on the persons life situation. There own life situation should be the deciding factor in that question.
-Nick G.
I think Lady Macduff has a right to be mad at her husband because family comes first. After comparing Macduff to an American solider, I feel that if the person thinks giving up his family for something bigger like his own country will be better for both him and the family then i feel as if he should pursue in doing so.
Danielle W
I think she has a reason becuase he should not have left his family even though he was doing a good cuase. He should have tried to bring them.
I think Lady Macduff has a right to be mad at her husband because he shouldn't of left them back home by themselves, especially at the certain time that he left. I feel that family is more important because its your husband/wife and children on the line, and they mean more. It's different when someone leaves to fight a war because they're actually just fighting for their coutnry and supporting what they believe in, rather than just leaving to be with the king.
I believe Lady Macduff had every reason to be upset towards Macduff for leaving Scotland to find Malcom. However, I also believe that Macduff left Scotland for a good reason. Without Malcom, Macbeth would have continuously rained as a tyrant and killed many other citizens of Scotland who he believes stood in his way. When an American soldier abandons his wife and children to go to war, it is very similar. The soldier would be fighting for his country to make it safe for his family to live. It would be the right thing to do
-Billy T. 9th period
Lady Macduff should be upset with Macduff. He thought it would be best for everyone, but, obviously, he was wrong because his family is now dead. Macduff would not have gotten killed or hurt because he left Scotland, where Macbeth had control, so Macbeth probably could not have done anything to him anyway. So he did not put his life on the line, he put his families'. American soldiers don't put their families lives on the line, they put their own. When someone from America goes, most likely, nothing will happen to their family, something would happen to them.
I think both Lady Macbeth and the wife of a solider would be upset because they're leaving their families to go fight regardless if they will ever see each other again. Lady Macbeth has a right because he left his family alone and unprotected. An American soldier is just doing his job to fight for his country and beliefs.
I don't think Macduff is justified to leave his family for his country because his family gets murdered because of his absence and his bloodline has stopped.
I do think that Lady Macduff has aright to be angry at Macduff becasue he just left. But comparing it to a soldier is different becasue he is doing it for the good of the people so he isnt totally wrong.
I think Lady Macduff is justified in her criticism of her husband. Macduff may have thought that he had a duty to his country and God, but he could have brought his family with him or have left protection for them. With regard to American soldiers they have the choice on whether to join the army or not, they are not forced. I personally do not think it is right to leave your family to worry and support themselves, but everyone sees their roles to their country and God differently.
I believe that any man (or woman) who leaves their spouse and/or family to help out a greater cause is doing the right thing. This is as long as that greater cause is of some benefit to their family. Macduff was only trying to help his family and the rest of Scotland when he left for England to seek help from the British army.
I think the situation is a big factor in deciding whether or not Lady Macbeth is justified in being upset with her husband. I think she is in this case, because he left without a warning or a reason. But with an American soldier, if they discuss the situation with their family then i see no reason as to why it should be a problem.
I think that Lady Macduff doesn't have right to be upset with her husband because she knew he was important in Scotlands monarchy and he would obviously have to leave eventually for other country affairs. I can see why she is upset because things in Scotland aren't safe during Macbeth's ruling, but that'd why Macduff had to go and sort things out in England. She should look from other families perspectives because they are in danger too. I would be selfish of Macduff to choose his family over the country. I think that the American soldier should go, because these days a family can survive with a single-parent home and the soldier isn't risking his,her family's safety.
I think it is okay for Macduff to do this because he is doing it for the benefit of all of them. It is the same for an American soldier because he is fighting for his or her country and to protect his or her family.
Lady Macduff has the right to be angry with Macduff, because she isn't aware of the real reason why he abandoned his family. The case for an American soldier leaving his home to fight for his/her country is different, because usually they consult with their family beforehand. They are also supported because they are fighting to protect others.
She in a way has a right to be upset. He left her unprotected. The reason he left though was very important and someone needed to get the job done. At least with soldiers if they do happen to die their family gets support and money. I think he had the right to go cause he wanted to do what was right for the whole counrty.
It may not have been the best idea for Lady Macduff's husband to leave his family in danger but he was going to try and help. I think if a solider is married it should be a joint decision if he decides to go off to war. It is always hard on the person left behind.
I believe that Lady Macduff has every reason to be mad at her husband. Ever since the begining of time, the husband/man is the leader and source of protection of the family (although the women played a big role too. Don't worry girls :)) Without the man, the family is left unprotected and "exposed". To me, Macduff is not justified in leaving his family. The American soldier that is married with a family is taking a huge risk going in the army. It is one thing for him to go if he has just a wife or girlfiend. I don't think that he should go if he has children. He has to be there to support them. What if he died and the mother has to take care of them by herself. The kids will grow up not knowing what there father was like, depending on their age. Marriage comes with sacrifices and responsibility in doing what is best for your family.
I think that the people should go because it is important to defend their country which might be more important to protect the country more then their family because there is more people to save then just the family.
Lady Macduff has every right to be upset. Her husband left her and her children unprotected. He felt his reason for doing this was in his family's best interest and for the benefit of his country. While he was only trying to do the right thing, it turned out negatively. This is similar to a soldier leaving for war because they need to fight and help protect not only their family, but their country as well. Things may not always turn out for the better, but as a soldier your duty is to protect your fellow citizens to the best of your ability, and family becomes a part of that.
I believe that Lady Macduff should have a right to be upset with her husband, because he left his family unprotected. Macduff is not being justified. I think that a soldier leaving to go fight for his/her country is totally different from Macduff running away to England because he is afraid to get killed. He should definitely go, if that is what they choose to do.
Yes, I think that she does because Macduff should be staying with his family and he should be protecting them. I don’t think this compares to someone in the military because they are choosing to go into war and to leave their family. They are willing to fight for their country. Macduff leaves for his own problems and just leaves his family behind.
Kaitlyn 9th Period
Lady Macduff definetly has a case because her husband just left her and her children unprotected and they were killed when he was gone. However, I do think that Macduff is justified in leaving becuase Macbeth needed to be overthrown and he had to do something about it. I dont think that American soldiers with children should go yet somtimes they have to. I think this because they are so important to their family and I dont think having them worry about you, whether theyre killed or not, is worth it.
Lady Macduff does have a right to be upset with her Macduff because of the fact that he abandoned his family. But, I do believe that Macduff is justified in leaving his family to leave Scotland to get help from England to overthrow Macbeth. In relation to an American soldier who is married or has children, that goes off to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan is justified as well. I think they should be able to do this because, they are doing it for the "greater good" even if they have to sacrifice some time away from their families, they are protecting the country.
Kyle O.
Period 8
Lady Macduff is in a special situation. The time she lives in calls for order and that order revolves around the divine right. Her family is also affected by the time period. People then could be murdered in sucha fashion without opposition certainly more than they could then which puts her at an impass because Macduff needed to solve the problem risking a few for many. Yes she has a case but so does Macduff. Yes he is based on the divine right rule for Malcolm. A soldier today has a different situation based on the time period. I believe it is more appropriate now as we see it in the masses.
1) Lady Macduff does have a case because he abondoned his family in a time of need.
2)Macduff leaving his family for bigger cause is not justafied because you have responsiblities as a husband to be there for you family which he did not hold so no him leaving to go to England is not right even if it is best for the country
3)I dont believe that soldiers who have families with children and wifes/husbands should be able to go off to war. I think this because they have made a promise to be there for there significant other and then they leave them alone for long amounts of time with no gaurentte of returne. Also what if they die its not like its just impacting themselves it effects everyone that was in your life which isnt fair that you left them to go fight then die and so your child has no parent or your wife/husband dosnt have you.
i think Macduff should be able to leave this family to go to England and seek help and same goes for the american soldier he should be albe to go over seas and fight for our freedom
I think she should be mad because he gave her no heads up and left her and her kids in danger of Macbeth.
I think she has a reason to be mad and upset becuase he should not have left his family with out atleast telling them were he was going and what he was doing, even though he was doing a good cuase. He should have tried to bring them with him incase macbeth wanted to do what he has done...
I think Lady Macduff has the right to be upset, Macduff shouldn't have left because he must have heard about all the killings and to leave his family is not a good idea. If a soldier is off to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan they should go because it is what they believe in and they are throwing themselves on the line and could die. Meanwhile Macduff is putting his own family and others on the line as well.
No I don’t think she has a case because Macduff is justified in leaving his family because if he leaves them to bring back the heir he will be saving a lot of families in Scotland as he rebuilds a broken nation. I think the American soldier is justified if he goes to Iraq or Afghanistan to fight because he is going to stop an enemy that threatens his own family and his country. He wants to go and protect the people that he loves.
I think Lady Macduff has every right to feel that way against her husband. Although, if she lived to see the outcome, she would have realized that he did it to benefit her and their family. Macduff only wanted to do the right thing for the people of Scotland. I think this same situation fits with the scenario of an American soldier leaving his family for war. The soldier only wants what is best for his family as well as country, he wants his children to live in a better environment then the way it is now. The wife should recognize the bravery and loyalty her husband has.
Marisa Period 9
No I don't think Lady Macduff has a case because Macduff is doing this for his country to return the rightful heir to make his country a better place. Yes I think that a soldier who goes of to fight for his country is justified because he is doing it for his family too protect them from evil terrorist that could potentially threaten his family.
I can understand why she would be upset but I think that she should understand why he is leaving, Macduff is doing this to save his country. The same should apply to an American soilder because he or she is doing the same things as Macduff and that should be understood.
I believe family is so important and it really helps people to get through life. Therefore, Lady Macduff does have a reason to be upset over her husband leaving her. However, I do not agree that she should be so angry with Macduff for leaving. I think it's really selfish that she was only thinking about herself rather than her husband's reason behind his absence. Macduff was taking matters into his own hands by going all the way to England. In my opinion, this is worth it, even as his family was killed. He's performing an unselfish act that will benefit many people so I do believe he should go.
I think that Lady Macduff has the right to be upset because Macduff left his whole family abandoned and unprotected. He thought everyone would be better off without him but in the long run, they weren't. Mac-duff's whole family was killed. Coming from another perspective, i believe she doesn't have the right to be upset at the same time. Comparing too an American soldier, you would have to leave your family too do right for everyone in the end even if it doesn't work out, you can still try.
i dont not think macduff should be leaving his family, or a soldier going to war i think family comes first and you should always be there from them.
I think that Lady Macduff has the right to be angry at her husband for him leabing the country.I think he has no right in leaving because he is scared of being killed by someone and not to serve to his country.I think this is not the same as an American soldier going off into a war in Iraq or Afghanistan because they are going to protect us and not to run away.
I think Macduff and Lady Macduff are both justified on their thoughts, and there really is no right or wrong answer. If Macduff decides to put God and his country ahead of his family (or vice versa) he is completely justified in doing so because both are important. While his family is his responsibility to take care of, and protecting his country is not necessarily his responsibility alone, the entire country and God are more important than just one family. Therefore, he can go either way. It is the same concept with a married American soldier; it just depends on what he believes in.
I think that Macbeth was justified in his actions to try to save Scotland from being run by a tyrant any longer however it would have been good for him to leave his family with some protection for when he is not there.
I can understand why Lady Macbeth is upset, because Macbeth left them with no notice. On the other hand, I think Macbeth is doing the right thing. He is fighting for a greater cause that in turn will help his family live a better life.- Jarred C.
Well I think Lady Macduff is just sad about her husband being away from her. She does have a case with that issue but it’s not like his never going to return. She’s allowed to be sad. Anyone might become sad if their loved one was leaving for a faraway trip during difficult times. I think an American solider is a whole different case. Some people don’t have the choice to choose to join up in something. He or she should go if they feel that it’s right and if it’s okay with the “important “people in their life. Some people just do not have a choice or don’t know there choices. I think this because it is very difficult to see a loved one go away whatever the case maybe it’s still a hard choice to go through.
I believe it truely matters on how the macduff family as a whole feels on the matter. If Macduff really wanted to go to England to seek help so much he would discuss it with his wife and family first. If the well being of his family really mattered so much to him he would put their opinion first.
I believe that Lady Macduff has a right to be upset with her husband because her husband is the head of the household and now he has left them. Macduff is not justified to leave his family beacuse he left to get away from macbeth and left his family indangered. the american soldier is justified to leave his family for war because they are fighting for what they believe and for our freedom,.
I think Lady Macduff has every right to be upset. American soldiers who have families should go off to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan because they are fighting for something they believe in and are putting their lives on the line to protect our country. While Macduff leaves his famly in danger by going off and leaving them behind.
Lady Macduff has a right to be angry with her husband. He had a family to protect with young children at home. Instead, he left and felt it was more important to defend his country. He felt i was more important to have the ruler with divine right as apposed to Macbeth. I feel American soldiers who goto Iraq have good hearts for doing what they do for our country, but I also feel they should not just pick up and leave their families for our country.
I think she has a reason, but it could be solved. He left her there still in the way of being harmed and no one was there to protect her/the family while he was away so if MacDuff could've found some people to protect them to flee if anything bad was to happen. MacDuff could not predict that Macbeth would kill them anyway but I think he did the right thing because he saved a country from a currupt king which could've been bad for the country in the future.
I think that Lady Macduff has every right to be angry with her husband. Macduff left his whole family unprotected but I do believe that it is okay that Macduff left his family and left Scotland to help England to overthrow Macbeth. Macduff just wanted to do what was right for the whole country.
I think that she does have a case, but it is one that can be solved. He had no idea that Macbeth was going to attack his family, but if he had possibly found someone to protect his family while he went away for a good cause then he could have possibly presented something.
I think that Macduff and the solderers are in the same boat. I think it is the right decision because they are both fighting for their home land and their family. Although they are putting their life at risk everyday they are doing it for their family so hopefully they can live through the battle and live with their families again
This is a very hard decision for any person to make. In Macduff and Lady Macduff's case, I think Lady Macduff had a right to be upset with him because he just left without saying anything to her about it. However, Macduff is also justified in his decision because he wanted to help his country. If an American soldier just went off to fight leaving his family behind without talking to them first, then I think that is wrong. If the soldier talked to his family about it first and they seemed to be okay with it, then I think that they should go and fight for their country.
- Lauren
Macduff and a soldier are similar. Lady Macduff can be upset but Macduff is fighting for his country. If Macduff knew Macbeth was planing to kill his family then it would of been wrong for him to still go fight but when he left he had no idea his family was in danger.
Lady Macduff does have a case, she believes that be Macduff going to help the country he is abandoning his family. However Macduff most likely thinks that by going to get help for the country, he is protecting his family as well. The argument compleatly depends on the point of view
I think that without decisions like Macduff’s by men throughout history, the ultimate sacrifice if you will, the world would be a darker place. While you could say him leaving his family is a failing by him as a man, I believe it is more important for one to serve one’s country, as service to ones country will be beneficial to their later generations. In Macduff’s case he sacrifices his family for the better of the next Scottish generations. But in the case of the American soldier, it is more a sense of duty to protect democracy around the globe. And despite is it is our place or not that is what we do.
I think that Lady Macduff has a reason to be upset because no matter the reason of Macduff's leave, it still hurts and upsets her that she’ll be left behind not knowing what terrible events might happen. Even though Macduff is leaving in order to help England overthrow Macbeth it still doesn't change the fact that Lady Macbeth will be left unprotected and endangered along with their son. An American soldier who goes off to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan shares a very similar situation however serving his country is his job and his wife should be aware that he might have to leave her at any given moment. It’s not Macduff's job or need to help a country so his wife is more taken back and shocked by his choice to leave Scotland.
By: Alina B
I think that Lady Macduff should be able to get made at Macduff, because he is leaving her to be by herself especially when the nation is in trouble. On the flip side Macduff should not ignore his calling in life even though that means abandoning his family, because ignore his “gut feeling” could result in fatal way. I feel like that in this situation it’s based on the judge of character not the action. Again if an American Soldier leaves his/her family I think it’s their own choice to do or not and no one should judge.
Chris-matt
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