Friday, November 12, 2010

#6 - Lord of the Flies

Well, what'd you think?  Lord of the Flies remains a staple in our high school curriculum.  Should it still be taught?  The novel has appeared recently in pop culture, including on TV in The Simpsons and Two and a Half Men.  It is also reflected in Lost and Survivor.  Watch the following clip; would it be as funny had you not read or been familiar with the book?  What is the goal of allusion in a piece of writing, including a TV script?  Why do you think the writers included it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3HdsmCUzlk

68 comments:

ashley said...

this book did not strike my intrest. it has a good leason to be taught but i would not reccomend it to people. It would have been funny if i had not read the book because you wouldnt understand what they are talking about. The goal was kids dont read they rely on movies and the internet to find out information. The write included it because its ironic because you are watching tv and learning about the book but not reading it.

Dominic B said...

this book has so many themes and hidden meanings that it will take afew times reading it to get a full understanding of the book well i wont be reading it that many times because it simply isnt my cup of tea but other people may like it that mutch but i believe that it showed a good petrayal of scocioty breakeing down and how people can have a hevy influence on other people just bby formeing a group and about the clip i do not think 2 and a half men is funny at all and yes if i did not read the book i wouldnt understand it but i find that i dont reely have that kind of problems i kind of get jokes like thast its being cultured andf if i do say so myself i am

Frankie B said...

While reading this book i got rally bored. this book really didnt intrest me that much at all. Ireally wouldnt recommened it to a friend or anyone. Even though it was boing it had some funny parts and like one or two sort of interesting chapters. But i cant really judge if they should take it out of the 10th grade lesson plan because dont really know what other book can rplace it. I personally think it is out dated and cant really relate to present day. I really would think this cli[p would be funny if i did not read the book because then i would have no idea what they were talking about. I think this shows that parents should make surte thier children read the book and that kids should not just read the back of the book or the title. I think the writers include this so they stress how important it is to do your assiments and to read the books and not just look at the title.
-Frankie B.

neslonad said...

I think that writers allude to these pieces of literature because it is a part of the viewer's childhood.
Dan O.

Anonymous said...

In the book Lord of the Flies I think that,the book should still be taught in the curriculum. I say this because even though that the book as some slow parts, the book has a great amount of examples of symbolism. After I saw this clip I really don't know if it would of been funny if I haven't read the book. I think that the goal of allusion is to be used for the people that read the book to make the joke more funny.

Jillian said...

Lord of the Flies was a good book but it didn't really catch my interest. Some parts of the book I just wanted to get over with but then parts that were suspenseful I didn't want to put it down. I think it should still be taught because it has a great lesson and we went over a lot of topics in class regarding the book. The clip wouldn't have been as funny if I didn't read the book because I had knowledge on the book.

Alina said...

I feel like this book should not be taught because I consider it to be somewhat contrivercial because it brings religion into the novel. I feel like The Lord of the Flies shows everyday society because rules are always broken, people corrupt and there is always a leader in everything but this book just emphasizes human nature and only reinforces what I already knew. I feel like reading this was pointless because almost in every chapter something was foreshadowed making this boring and uninteresting to read. The clip I watched was not funny wheather I knew or didn't know the book however it did make more sense to someone who is familiar with The Lord of the Flies. Even though I don't think it's necessary to bring out novels the writers do so because to the audience familiar with the book, it may bring childhood memories, remind the person of the book or compare the book to present-day society. I feel like the goal is to name drop the novel and convince people unfamiliar with it to read it.
By: Alina B.

sarie harvey said...

I don't really like reading, but the main story of "Lord of the Flies" was pretty good. I think it should still be taught because it shows that everyone, in any situation, will have differences and not always agree with everyone else. It also shows that it's really hard to keep control over a group of people without written laws/rules that can actually be enforced and followed.
I probably would not have fully understood the clip if I didn't know the book, but it still would have been somewhat funny. I think the goal of an allusion is to teach people about other things that have happened, also for some humor. I think the writers included this as a reference to the book, so people would read it and know how important it is.

Anonymous said...

I thought that Lord of the Flies was a pretty good book. Overall I believe that it is a very good book for this curriculum because it has a lot of literary devices within the story. If I had not previously read the book the clip would not have been as funny.

Mr. Gunsel said...

Alina, are you saying that we should not teach anything controversial or with religious undertones? That would probably eliminate 95% of our curriculum in all subjects. The idea that it reinforced what you already know is one of the primary reasons we read literature; it helps to validate our world views and allows us to feel a part of the human race (Maslow's need to belong). Similarly, allusion is often used to illuminate some aspect of a story because the writer assumes that a wide audience is familiar with the reference. A common knowledge base is essential to human interaction and cooperation. Allusions are not meant to "plug" a book. The reference is lost on those who are unfamiliar with it. Personally, I'd rather be one to "get it" than not.

Mr. Gunsel said...

I love the thoughtfulness and convictions of these early posts. Keep it up!

Andrew C. said...

I think it was a good book, and should still be taught in the ciriculum because it tells us what would happen if there were no order in the world. It wouldnt have been as funny now that I know about the book. The goal of an Allusion is trying to get the reader, or listener, to make a connection to something in history.

Chris C said...

I thought the book Lord of the Flies was a good and intrestig book.I think it should always be taught in a high school curriculum it teaches kids about savagry and how kids are without parents. If i had not read this book the clips in these shows would not make sence or be funny. The goal allusion in a piece of writing is how parents control there kids.The auther does this because the kids in the book would not have did the same things they did if there were parents on the island.

Nick G said...

I thought Lord of the Flies was a decent book. I think it should still be taught because it shows how humans are and some people don't realize that. I think that if you never heard of the book the clip wouldn't have been funny at all. I think writers include the book in the scripts because they know a lot of people have read the book.
-Nick G.

Andre V. said...

I can't say Lord of the Flies was one of the best books I've read, but it was worth reading. I believe it is a good enough book to remain being taught in our curriculum. The themes,messages and lessons the book teaches are very interesting. The main lesson I got from the book itself, was what would happen to society if it were to just break down. The clip would not be as funny if I had not read the book, because I would not understand the allusion. The goal of allusion in a piece of writing or a TV script is to make a reference to a well known piece of writing in particular. I think the writers included it, because of the majority of people reading Lord of the Flies during High school, or some point in their life.

Marisa said...

I feel that Lord of the Flies should be kept in our high school curriculum, but I also feel that it should not. I think the plot was somewhat predictable and uninteresting to its readers. Overall, I think Lord of the Flies was a good book, but only because of the themes it reinforced. The themes are important and stressed in everyday life and every high school student should read a book with these ideas. I am not an English teacher and I have not read enough literature so if LOTF were to be replaced with another book, I wouldn’t know what book would take its place. I did not think the clip was that funny at all, but I think it would be better to have been familiar with the book and then watch instead of not knowing the book at all. I think the goal of allusion in a piece of writing, including a TV script is to appeal to the reader as something they know (in this case learned in school) or can relate to. I think the writers include it because the age group of its viewers most likely read or have heard about the book when they were younger or in school.
Marisa S.
Period 9

Emma K. said...

I liked Lord of the Flies becasue of all of the hidden themes and symbolism. I think that it described what some people people would turn into if left on a deserted island having to fend for themselves (Jack), but that some people would keep their senses (Ralph). I think that it should remian in our high school cirriculum because it helps to descover interesting themes. I did not really think the clip was funny even though I read the book.

Kaitlyn said...

I liked reading Lord of the Flies because I could relate and compare a lot of what happened to LOST. I think it should still be taught because there are several important themes that were represented in the novel. After watching the video, I laughed and found it funny because it related to the story and I understood everything. I then asked my brother who is in 8th grade, to watch to clip, who has not read the novel yet and he said that the clip was not funny. I then also showed him the Simpsons episode and he didn’t think that one was funny either. So my answer would be that people who have read the book will think that the clip is funny and people who haven’t wont. Although, I think that producers add the story into their TV script because the majority of people watching this show, are people who are older and have read the novel already.

Rustam D. said...

I belive this book still should remain in our school curriculum because it has many lessons to teach, one of the best and important lessons i think was the fact that the human nature will take over after a certain period of time with out power and authority in our lives.

Anonymous said...

I somewhat enjoyed reading Lord of the Flies. This book appealed to me because of the connections I had to it. I enjoyed being able to relate to the children in the book, mostly because I at one point in my life felt like Piggy, or Jack.

In my opinion, Jack is the easiest to relate to no matter who you are, because it is human nature to experienced some of the things Jack felt. For instance, the adrenaline rush you can feel if you're in a survival situation.

Not everyone can relate to Piggy. Piggy can be thought of as an intellectual. In other words, he rationally thinks through things before he takes action.

It is not a coincidence that Jack is the opposite of Piggy. Jack favors strength and force to get what he wants. Piggy, on the other uses his mind to overcome his obstacles.

Overall, I did not mind reading this book. It was little bit hard to understand at times, but that was mostly cleared up in class.

Rhiannon said...

Lord of the Flies wasn't one of my favorite books, but it was pretty interesting to read. I believe it should still be taught in the high school curriculum, because it gets you to really think about the deeper meaning that Golding is trying to express. If I had never read Lord of the Flies the clip from Two and a Half Men wouldn’t have amused me, because I wouldn’t have known what the book was even about. The goal of allusion is to have you start out believing the story or show has something to do with one aspect when really after you learn about it you realize it had a totally different meaning. Writers most likely include allusion to change the reader’s first impression of their piece of writing.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I liked Lord of the Flies. I do think this novel should be taught in our high school curriculum because this is a classic novel which is mentioned frequently on TV and in public. The video clip definitely would not be funny if I haven't read the book in class. Other classic novels are mentioned on TV and I would only understand the allusion if I had read the book. I think they added this in the script because most high schools have Lord of the Flies in their curriculum.
Danielle W

MichaelL. said...

I thought lord of the flies was a great book and i enjoyed reading it. I think it should continue being taught. The joke would not have been funny because you would not know what they were talking about. I think the writers included it because they were stretched for jokes and couldnt think of anything else. I didnt think it was verry funny.

Jessica C said...

Yes, I think this novel should still be taught because it shows the more optimistic people that everyone is created evil and that they need rules to stay under control. The clip wouldn't have been as funny if I never read Lord of the Flies. I think this because it shows that this book is not really straight forward and you have to look into the book hard to understand the concept. The writers put this in the show because they know everyone read it in high school.

Jackie said...

I surprisingly loved Lord of the Flies. I believe this book should be taught in school. Reading overall, increases your intelligence, no matter which novel it is.I thought this book was something everyone could relate to. In life, we all encounter people who aren't like us that may be hard to get along with. We need to learn how to tolerate these people. This book It caused me to question whether people are born evil or not. Although I already knew most of the themes that the author wrote about,it helped me think about different things. William Golding also included a lot of symbolism in this story. Because symbolism is found often in literature, i think it's important we read about it and discuss it in school so we become more familiar with it. If we are able to point out all of the symbols in Lord of the Flies, it will be easier for us, as readers, to recognize symbolism in other literature. I think the Two and a Half Men clip wouldn't be as funny if you haven't read the book. If you aren't familiar with Lord of the Flies you wouldn't understand that the boy's interpretation of it is completely wrong, therefore the joke wouldn't be funny. The goal of allusions in a piece of writing is to show a relation to the allusion and the piece of writing. It also may be just an advertisement. The writers choose to include it to persuade the viewer or reader to look into the book or movie that is mentioned.

Jimmy B said...

I did not like Lord of the Flies very much. I really don't know why I didn't like it, but I just couldn't stand reading it. I loved the discussions in class because they were so interesting, but the interpretations and ideas about the book that were brought about through the class discussions were about the only things about the book that interested me. I do not think Lord of the Flies should still be taught because although its themes can bring about a lot of productive discussion in the classroom, I think these discussions can occur just as easily and just as effectively with some other stimulus to cause them. I do not think Lord of the Flies was very effective and I think the class discussions were much more effective than the book itself. This clip may have been a little funny, but it was nowhere near hilarious any way I looked at it. I would guess it would have even been less funny if I had never read Lord of the Flies because I would not get the joke at first and it would completely ruin it. Most of the times when I see allusion in a piece of writing or a TV script, it is usually there because it relates to the theme of the plot in some way. The work alluded to usually shares one or more themes with the work that alluded to it. The goal of allusion is to hint to these themes and enhance them. It is also used to support themes. A lot of the time works allude to a famous work so that most or all people can relate to and understand the allusion.

William A. B (8) said...

While, Lord of the Files does remain an important part of our curriculum, I feel like there are better methods of realizing its lessons. For class we read the book and discussed it in length during our class period. I feel that the book still needs to be taught, but I think that it should be taught more actively. For example, the group project was a much easier way to realize the lesson of the book. While working in the group I completely understood how the boys eventually were pitted together in the story. All you need are a few unintelligent and unmotivated people, and the whole group effort is wasted.

As far as the clip being funny, I feel like some background on the book is necessary for you to understand the humor, however; I do not think that you need to have read and analyzed the book in order to find it funny. And I think that this is the issue I had with reading the book, the message can be written in a few sentences. Golding’s book does provide a able vehicle for this message, but I didn’t find it 100% necessary to read the book for me to understand the message.

As far as allusions, I feel that they are imperative for contrasting and making real world connections. They also give the writing more value, I personally enjoy reading writing that makes connections to real world occurrences and culture over one that does not.

Bridget F. said...

I thought Lord of the Flies was not as entertaining as I had hoped. I liked some aspects of the book. The plot was very good, but the way Golding made it kind of ruined the whole book for me. I don't think Lord of the Flies should be taught in school because the symbolism is religious and not everyone shares the belief in Jesus or the devil. I also think that people being naturally evil in the book encourages bad behavior and murder because it basically says "its human nature". I thought the clip wouldn't have been as amusing if I didn't read the book. I think the goal of allusion in a writing script is to connect with the audience and make them feel related to the characters in some way shape or form. I think the writers included it because of this reason.

Grace L. said...

I believe Lord of the Flies should be taught. It was an interesting book with a great plot line. I am not a very avid reader, but this book kept me somewhat interested in reading. As for the clip from Two and a Half Men, I had seen that episode prior to reading the book and I still found it funny. I didn't find it any funnier than it already was after reading the book. I honestly don't know why a screen writer would incorporate literature into scripts, but it happens frequently. It makes the shows more interesting and expands on the plot lines, but otherwise, I don't see much of a point to incorporate literature. If people read more than they do now, then TV ratings would go way down. That's just my opinion, of course.

eric w said...

I found lord of the flies very intresting. I think it should remain in the school curiculum and should still be tought.Yes these clips are funnier that i have read this book and that im familiar with the book. The goal of allusion is to add soemthing from another art of some sort into another form of it like it was done with this book and the simpsons. The writers usually try to do this to be funny.

kristiiiiiiiiixo said...

I thought that Lord of the Flies was decent. I think it should be taught to show how even human beings can be savages. The video clip would not have been funny if i didnt read the book. The allusion of this was if you know the joke the more funnier it is.

Bernadette said...

I wasn't crazy about Lord of the Flies but it was an interesting book. I felt that I can relate to the book in how Ralph is the leader and a lot of the kids didn't agree with everything he said. I think that it should be taught because it teaches an important lesson. I think that I wouldn't really understand the clip or its allusion if I didn't read the book. I think that the writers included it because they were trying to be funny and that the book is in many curriculum.

samanthab27 said...

I get that "Lord of the Flies" has many literary terms that modern books don’t include, but I personally didn’t enjoy the book and think it shouldn’t being taught in schools anymore. I thought that it was boring and every chapter just dragged on.If school books were more modernized and students could relate to them more then maybe more kids would actually read them. Without class discussions I would have been completely lost and confused. It is interesting when references to the book are made on television, and it makes me feel smart when I get the jokes. The goal of allusion in a piece of writing is to make you think beyond the piece and dig deeper into the meaning. I think writers do this to interest the readers and help them make a connection (text to text or text to self).

XxKaraXx said...

I thought Lord of the Flies was going to be totally boring once I read the title. But I was wrong, it was actually pretty interesting. From the clip it would be funny if you read the book, because you automatically know its not about flies. The goal of allusion in pieces of writing it to think more in dept in book. I think it should still be taught in schools because it has many morals and lessons to be learned from. I think the writers included it to make a comical joke.

KevinS said...

I think that it should still be taught today because people can still relate to it today. It would not had been nearly as funny if I had not read the book because I would not even understand it. The goal of allusion is so people can relate to it and connect with it. The writers included it because it is makes it very funny for people who read it.

Mike B said...

I thought that this was a good book because it had a lot of action and was very suspenseful. I think that it shold still be read in high school becasue it was interesting. The goal is to tell people that without law and order the humans would turn into savages. I tjink that the writter shouldn't write another one becasue it would be really hard to follow this book.

Kayla D said...

I personally did not really like reading Lord of the Flies. I thought it was kinds of boring. However, I do think that it should be taught in high school because it is a classic novel that is used as an allusion in many TV shows, and because everyone knows about it. I do not think that the allusion in this clip would have been funny if you had not read the book. I think the goal of allusions in a piece of writing in a TV script is to captivate the audience and make them relate to the characters more. Writers probably include allusions for the same reason.

Gianaa said...

I think that Lord of the Flies should still be taught throughout the years because it had meaning and value. I think that if you saw that episode of Two and a half men that it would not be funny,because while the boy was making up something you wouldn't know if it was true or not. The goal of an allusion in television show would be to relate to books that kids or adults have prior knowledge of, another goal would be to show new schools or people the book. The writers would only use it for a certain reason.

westvball4225 said...

The book never truly attracted me. It is a good lesson to teach for numerous reasons. Though I wouldn't recommend this book, the lesson that comes out of it is fantastic. As far the clip, it wouldn't have been as funny because I would have no idea what they are talking about. The goal was kids don't read the book asked of them to read so they try to pull it out of people who have previously read the book.
Dan M

StefanZ said...

I believe that Lord of the Flies should be thought in the School because overall it was an alright book.And it was better than doing grammer so i think it should still be tought in the school.

Mike S. said...

I enjoyed the book very much, and i think it should definitely be taught in school curriculum because of the unbelievable amount of symbolism in it, and how much it teaches students about civilizations reaction to different situations, right down to the core of humanity itself. I think the clip would be funny even if you hadn't read the book, however knowing what the book is about makes it even funnier.

-Mike S.

mattr said...

I think that Lord of the "Flies of the Flies" should still be taught because it is a very good book that I enjoyed and it is also very interesting. I think that the clip would not be as funny if I had not read "Lord of the Flies" because I wouldn't know what the book was about and might even think that it was actually about a giant fly. I think that the writers included this just because they wanted to make a joke that most people would get.

alyssad. p8 said...

I found Lord of the Flies to be an interesting book. I feel that everyone is able to relate to it to some degree. Some people said they could not relate to it at all which is probably due to the fact that they A. did not read or B. did not care enough to look into the deeper meanings or even the ones right in front of them. I personally think Lord of the Flies should be taught in school still because they are not meaning for us to read it for its religious aspects. We are actually reading it to reinforce that we need order and rules and to somewhat display a valid reason for them. If I did not read the book I would definitely not find the clip as funny since I would not have any idea of what they were talking about. The point of the allusion in Two and a Half Men was to display that kids really don’t read and try to get out of it or get someone else to tell them the basics. They most likely chose this book due to the fact that many people would find it funny since the book is so popular. Most people in high school and adults read the book and would understand the joke.

jeanmarie said...

yes i think it should be because it teches us to look at our sourrandings and be thankful for what we have.no it would not because you would not have that backround information becouse they think its a good idea in what the book is teaching the diffrence between good and evil

billyt said...

I believe that the allusion in other shows that use "Lord Of The Flies" is used because many teens would find it funny. This is used because many teenagers are reading the book "Lord of the Flies" and would understand the joke.

Anonymous said...

This book was ok. It has a good lesson, but i probally would not reccomend it to people. the clip was funny if i didn't read the book. The goal was people rely on the internet and movies/tv to get information.

AmandaK said...

Although i'm not a huge fan of the book, i do think it should still be taught because the book has indeed been referred to on television. The clip probably wouldn't have been as funny because I wouldn't have known what the book was actually about. The writers included it because Lord Of The Flies is a well-known book and by including that it creates humor that many people would understand.

Melissa M. said...

This book really didn't interest me that much at all. Even though i thought it was boring it taught a good lesson, so I think "Lord of the Flies" should still be taught in schools. As far as the clip, if I had never read Lord of the Flies i don't think it would have been funny because I wouldn’t have known what they were talking about. The writers most likely put this in the show because they know everyone read it in high school.

AlexB said...

If I didnt read this book these jokes and shows wouldnt be as good because I wouldnt of had the outside knowlege to make the conection.

The goal of allusion is to make a underlieing joke or comment that a large amount of people can understand and relate to.

The writers of these shows put this in their programs because they understand that it is a popular book that amlmost any person in or out of high school would understand.

Jenn C said...

I think Lord of the Flies was one of my favorite books that I have read in a long time. I think it should still be taught because up until i read this book I never found reading fun. This book, to me, was a adventure and i rarely wanted to put it down.I think that if you saw the clip with out and prior knowledge it would still be funny but you wouldn't understand why. If you have read the book you would understand the cleverness of the joke and you would appreciate it more. The goal of allusion in a piece of writing, including TV script, is to be able to relate what you are reading to something you have learned in the past. I think the authors include it because it will make the book more enjoyable for the readers to read. It will help them imagine what is going on because they are able to compare it to something that has happened in real life.

Lauren T. said...

I personally did not love the book Lord of the Flies. However, I do think that it should still be taught in high school. I think that it has valuable lessons that we can learn from. This clip would not have been as funny if I had not read the book because before reading Lord of the Flies, I had no idea what it was about either. I think the goal of allusions in a TV script is to relate to the show's audience. I think that the writers included it because they know that many people have read the book and could relate to the show.

Ashley L said...

i wasnt really into the book, but i do think lord of the flies should be taught because it teahces lessons and shows how people would turn into with out a civilized community.

Timothy said...

I believe it should still be taught because it is interesting and the clip would not be as good if you did not read the book because otherwise you don't know what they are talking about. The writers put this in because they were trying to relate to the general population

bobby R said...

Bobby R
Although I did not enjoy lord of the files I think it should still be taught because some people probably do enjoy it. Someone who has not read or heard of the book probably wouldent find this clip as funny. I think this clip was included in the show because this book is very well known and a lot of people will get it.

Stephen E said...

Honestly I hated the book. It should still be taught though because it has good lessons in the story. The clip would not have been funny if I didn't read the book because I didn't know anything about the story or what it was. The goal of allusion is to compare things to the book and apply them in real life. I think writers include it because the books are useful and interesting that way.

StephT said...

I personally didn't like the book. Although, I still think it should be taught in school. I think that the lessons learned from this book can be very valuable in life. This clip would not have been funny if you did not read the book because before this year, I had no idea what Lord of the Flies even was. I think the goal of allusion is to relate something in the show to something you have read/seen/etc. in life. I think writer's put it in because they know a majority of the population will understand what they are talking about.

aaronl said...

I think it should be taught becuase it is a great book and is very interesting. reading the book makes wacthing the movie alot better aswell.

Unknown said...

i think lord of the flies should be taught beacause it teaches students good vs evil

dan a. said...

I enjoyed reading “Lord of The Flies.” I thought it was a very interesting book with many themes and lessons that could be learned and used for good in life. Also, yes, I do feel "Lord of The Flies" should still be taught in schools, primarily for the purpose of teaching the lessons that come out of it.
In regards to the clip, I think it would not be as funny had I not been at all familiar with the book because I would not know what the actors are talking about. I think the writers for Two and a Half Men included this little part about “Lord of the Flies” to get the people watching who have at one point read the book or are familiar with it and the events that take place to laugh and be entertained by the humor in the script.

Dan A.
Period 8 English

AidanK said...

I think that Lord Of the Flies was a great book and that it still should be taught in High schools. The Simpsons would be funny because the show is normally funny to me to begin with. The writers of these shows want to see if people everywhere can make a connection to a famous and a very good book as it is.

SmithtownKO said...

Kyle O.
I thought lord of the flies was a good book. I thought it taught a valuable lesson about how we are as humans. It challenges us to think and act on an emotion. This emotion is almost jealousy? We become jealous of the evil or we become savage in the case of Lord of the Flies. I think it is great because the concept can be put into an everyday situation. Someone doing something as small as teasing or fighiting is a staple of evil in nature. It may be small scale but i think Loff is a good attention grabber to make kids think about how they are acting. I did think the clip was funny and i'm not sure it would have been if i hadn't read the book. I think the directors put this novel in their shows to amplify a message like in survivor and lost because they are in a very similar situation and it has them act on this thought of good and evil. Also the effect of human nature and the opportunity to act on it

Anonymous said...

I think Lord of the Flies should still be taught because it demonstrates what people would actually do without authority. We think it's so great at first, but then really we need that authority or rule to keep us in line. Otherwise, the world would we chaos. But I also think it's good to teach students good vs. evil.

CharlieM said...

I think "Lord of The Flies" should still be taught in school. Even though it is old it is still a good book. The clip wouldn't have been as funny if you weren't familiar with the book because you wouldn't know what the book is really about.I think the writers included "Lord of the Flies" because the title is ironic, and the writers want u to know that the title of something isn't always what its about.

George B said...

I thought that "Lord of the Flies" was a good book and it should still be taught because it teaches how a society will crumble with out laws or rules. I think the clips wouldn't have been as funny because i would have understood it. I guess the goal for most writers is to try to get a message across to the reader or listener and the writers probably included this because since the book is so popular many people would have understood the reference.

-George B

BrandonP said...

I think "Lord of The Flies" should still be taught in school. This book shows you how people act when laws arent in their live`s and how if you do not use them then their will be cahos.

JordanF said...

I liked reading "Lord of the Flies" and think that it should definitely still be taught because it shows us that without a structured form of government chaos will break free.
I don't think it would be funny if I hadn't read the book because I wouldn't have got the joke.The goal of an allusion is to compare things to the book and apply them in real life.I think they included it to make the older generation who has read the book laugh.

Gabrielle A. said...

I really enjoyed lord of the flies. It was probobly one of my favorite books I have read in highschool thus far. I think this video is much funnier having read the book previously because in this case, knowing the book is like an inside joke that just makes the situation much more entertaining. I think this book should continue to be taught in high school mainly because of its relation to pop culture and society today.

Deirdra said...

I do think lord of the files should be taught in school. When the generation of students who actually had to read this book in class grows wiser with age, and they will have something to reflect on compare to other books and to talk about with one another. The clip is funny however if you didn’t read the story you would have the whole background knowledge you would have gotten if you did read.